notebookcheck关于x62和hope大神的报道
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Enthusiasts-bring-classic-ThinkPad-designs-to-the-modern-era.194630.0.html虽然个人对经典小黑没什么执念,但确实很佩服大神的技术和执行力。 我访问不了这个页面{:1_242:} nsby494 发表于 2017-2-1 19:00
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Classic ThinkPads are alive and well thanks to some dedicated enthusiasts in China. With a completely custom-made motherboard, 1400 x 1050 IPS panel, Broadwell CPU, and updated ports, the X62 is a modern laptop in retro clothing.
When you hear the name "ThinkPad", a few things will probably come to mind: their minimalist bento-box design, second-to-none keyboard, and legendary reliability. While the originator of the ThinkPad name, IBM, sold the brand off to Chinese manufacturer Lenovo in 2005, the ThinkPad traditions of minimalist design, usability, and reliability have been stewarded fairly well since then. However, Lenovo did oversee two major changes to the ThinkPad line that some cannot get past to this day: the switch from classic to island-style keyboard (along with the removal of the top 7th row of keys), and the complete abandonment of the 4:3 screen aspect ratio (today's Windows laptops are almost exclusively 16:9).
It's understandable why many people didn't like the change to an island-style 6-row keyboard layout, but why are there sticklers for a 4:3 display? Maybe it's got something to do with the document-centric business heritage of the ThinkPad, as some say text is easier to read in 4:3. Still, many more people find the 16:9 style much preferable and have never looked back. Truth be told, it probably comes down to simply preferring the classic feel of it. Released in 2007, the last laptop Lenovo with a 4:3 screen was the X61. The X61 was a solid performer for its time, but, a decade later, the Intel Core 2 Duo that it utilized has trouble rendering anything but the most basic of today's webpages. Thus, if you love classic ThinkPad design and yearn for a 4:3 laptop to use in your day-to-day, you are out of luck.
...Or so you would be, if not for some incredibly clever ThinkPad enthusiasts operating out of China. In 2015, the admin of 51nb.com's ThinkPad Community forum, known as "HOPE", began working on a modded motherboard for the X61 with his team. The project grew in popularity and scope until, eventually, the 51nb team started selling a fully assembled modded X61, complete with a custom motherboard based on HOPE's own design. This completely custom machine with modern internals was dubbed the X62—the sequel to the beloved X61.
The X62's specs are quite a boost from the X61's in nearly all areas: The screen has been updated from a 1024 x 768 TN to a 1400 x 1050 IPS panel. The Core 2 Duo has been replaced with an Intel i7-5500u, and the motherboard has been completely revamped as well. The team has added support for up to 32 GB of RAM, mSATA SSD and 2.5-inch SSD support, and mini HDMI, mini DP, and USB 3.0 ports (unfortunately, the VGA, dock, and Cardbus ports were sacrificed for this modernization).
The machines, due to the ad-hoc nature of their construction, are not without their niggles (which HOPE's team is continuously working on improving): reviews by users on reddit's r/thinkpad forums noted some issues with fan speeds, as well as the quality of the audio—which seemed to stem from the selection of audio hardware. However, the latest firmware mostly ameliorates these annoyances. Overall, however, the owners seem to love the retro feel of the classic keyboard and 4:3 IPS display, finding them a refreshing blend of the best of the old and new ThinkPads.
There are other modded ThinkPads the team is working on as well: Their X320 and X330 laptops, based off the ThinkPad x220 and X230 series, are retrofitted with the XPS 13's InfinityEdge displays. The latest projects to take their attention are updates to the X201 and T60 ThinkPads, which will become the X210 and T70, respectively. More information (in English) about the group's projects is on their facebook page.
The ThinkPad line commands a following that some might call "cult-like", but others might just call "devoted". There is indeed a certain charm that the line still has—even in their most modernized interpretations such as the X1 Carbon. For member's of 51nb's community and HOPE's team, though, what draw them to keep modding classic ThinkPads are the build quality, trackpoint, and above all else, the giddy, anachronistic feeling of using a 4:3 screen in 2017. nsby494 发表于 2017-2-1 19:00
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当你听到“Thinkpad”,一些事情可能会想到:他们的简约便当盒设计,首屈一指的键盘,和传说中的可靠性。而ThinkPad的名字,鼻祖IBM品牌出售了2005的中国制造商联想,简约的设计,ThinkPad传统的可用性和可靠性已经作了相当好之后。然而,联想并监督两大变化的ThinkPad产品线,一些不能让过去的这一天:从古典到孤岛式键盘开关(随着按键的前第七行的去除),并对4:3屏幕完全放弃(今天的Windows笔记本电脑几乎都是16:9)。
这就可以理解为什么很多人不喜欢变化,一个岛式6排的键盘布局,但为什么有执着于4:3的显示器?也许这跟以文档为中心的商业传统的ThinkPad,如某些人所说的文本易于阅读4:3。不过,更多的人会发现16:9的风格更可取,头也不回。说实话,它可能归结为更喜欢它的经典感觉。在2007发布,以4:3的屏幕上的笔记本电脑,联想是X61。的X61是其时间,表现优秀,但是,十多年后的今天,英特尔Core 2 Duo,它运用了渲染任何麻烦但最基本的网页。因此,如果你喜欢经典的ThinkPad的设计和向往4:3笔记本电脑使用你的日常,你的运气了。
…或者你会,如果没有一些非常聪明的ThinkPad爱好者经营出中国。2015、对51nb管理员。COM的ThinkPad的社区论坛,被称为“希望”,开始与他的团队的X61 modded主板。项目的逐渐普及和范围,直到最终的51nb团队开始销售完全组装改装X61,完成一个基于希望自己设计定制的主板。这完全定制机与现代的内部被称为x62为了心爱的X61续集。
的x62的规格从X61的几乎所有领域相当大的提升:屏幕已经从1024×768到1400×1050的TN更新IPS面板。Core 2 Duo已与英特尔i7-5500u取代,和主板已经彻底更新,以及。球队已经增加到32 GB的RAM支持,SATA SSD和2.5英寸SSD的支持,和迷你HDMI,Mini DP和USB 3端口(不幸的是,VGA,码头,港口和CardBus是这现代化牺牲)。
该机由于结构特别的性质,也不是没有麻烦(这希望的团队不断努力改善):由用户的评论在Reddit上的R / ThinkPad论坛注意到风扇速度的一些问题,以及音频似乎干从音频硬件的选择质量。然而,最新的固件主要改善这些烦恼。总的来说,然而,业主似乎喜欢复古的经典键盘和4:3 IPS显示屏的感觉,找到他们耳目一新的融合最好的旧的和新的ThinkPad。
还有其他改装的ThinkPad团队工作以及他们的x320和X330笔记本电脑,基于ThinkPad X220和X230系列,改装的XPS 13的infinityedge显示。要关注最新的项目更新的ThinkPad X201和T60,这将成为x210和T70,分别。关于该集团的项目的更多信息(英文)是在他们的脸谱网页面。
ThinkPad行命令后,一些所谓的“邪教”,但其他人可能叫“奉献”。确实是有一定的魅力,线仍在甚至最现代化的解释,如X1碳。为成员的51nb社区和希望的团队,虽然,吸引他们继续改装经典的ThinkPad的建造质量,指点杆,和高于一切,头晕,使用4:3的屏幕在2017过时的感觉。 nsby494 发表于 2017-2-1 19:00
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里面提到了x62,还有进行中的x210和t70
以及改装的x320和330
这么一来影响力就更大了,估计走出国门的机器会更大
^c^ 会不会有人来谈买断专利?
厉害了我的哥。。 这个网站很牛么?
ansky51nb 发表于 2017-2-1 21:18
这个网站很牛么?
不算多牛吧,但确实是现在为数不多还踏踏实实做笔记本电脑测评的网站之一了。 x19900813x 发表于 2017-2-1 21:27
不算多牛吧,但确实是现在为数不多还踏踏实实做笔记本电脑测评的网站之一了。
我说年前zhangyongtao打我电话说要给X62弄个英文的介绍,当时在外面和同学喝酒,后来过年一忙忘记了。。。 上去看了一下,档板那图是我拍的呀 翻译得一塌糊涂 中国制造牛! 低调啊低调 这希望的团队不断努力改善
HOPE翻译成了希望,:D 还真是notebookcheck的帖子 这个网站我经常登里面的cpu和gpu的测评非常非常专业 哈哈有我留言了 #2 bdgboss 3 minutes ago
I bought x62, that's awosome. Thanks Hope Team.
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#1 Vinh T. Nguyen 4 days ago
That's what I call true love ;). 好像这台机器安装的很不完美 赶紧留爪印 HOPE 发表于 2017-2-1 22:57
我说年前zhangyongtao打我电话说要给X62弄个英文的介绍,当时在外面和同学喝酒,后来过年一忙忘记了。。 ...
归功于一批爱机人士的杰出奉献,ThinkPad在中国经典再现。配备了完全订制的主板,1400X1050 IPS屏幕, Broadwell CPU, 全新升级的接口,X62成为拥有传统外观的新式电脑。
当你听到“Thinkpad”的时候,首先可能想到的是:它们的简约便当盒设计,首屈一指的键盘,和值得信赖的可靠性。然而在2005年,ThinkPad的品牌被其所有者IBM出售给了中国的电脑制造商联想,ThinkPad的传统的简约设计、易用性和可靠性也极好地传承了下来。然而,联想对ThinkPad的产品线进行了两大改进,这是过去所没有过的:一是从传统键盘到浮萍键盘的改进(同时去除了键盘顶端的第七行键位设计),另外是完全放弃了4:3屏幕(今天的Windows笔记本电脑几乎都是16:9)。
很多人不喜欢键盘布局由6行变7行还可以理解,但为什么有人执着于使用4:3的显示器呢?也许这跟以文档为中心的ThinkPad的商业血统有关,比如某些人所说的在4:3的屏幕上文本更易于阅读。不过,越来越多的人发现16:9的屏幕更加优于4:3屏幕。说实话,人们喜欢它可能更喜欢它的经典。最后一代使用4:3屏幕的笔记本电脑是联想2007年发布的X61。X61在很长的一段时间里表现优秀,但是十多年后,英特尔的Core 2 Duo处理器即使在最基本的网页的渲染都不太能胜任了。因此,在日常的使用中,即使你喜欢经典的ThinkPad的设计和钟情于4:3的屏幕,廉颇老矣的x61已经无法满足您的需要。
如果不是这些非常聪明的中国的ThinkPad爱好者的出现,您将真的告别经典的x61。2015年,知名的ThinkPad的社区论坛-51nb网站的管理员“HOPE”,开始与他的团队开发X61的订制主板。随着项目的逐渐开展及完善,51nb团队开发并开始销售完全组装改装的X61,完成了这款由HOPE亲自设计定制的主板。这款具有全新内核的定制机被称为x62,成为机友们所钟爱的X61的延续。
相对于X61,X62的硬件在各方面均有相当大的提升:屏幕已经从1024×768的TN屏升级到1400×1050的IPS面板。英特尔i7-5500u取代了老迈的Core 2 Duo处理器,同时,主板也已经彻底升级。新主板对RAM支持增加到32 GB,增加了对mSATA SSD和2.5寸SSD的支持,新增加了mini HDMI,Mini DP和USB 3.0端口(原有的VGA,Dock,和CardBus接口被舍弃)。
当然,由于该款机器的特殊结构,它并不是完美无暇的(HOPE的团队一直在努力改善):根据reddit's r/thinkpad用户反馈,该机器存在风扇速度和一些可能源于音频硬件的音频问题,最新的固件已经改进了这些问题。总的来说,使用者似乎更喜欢X62复古的经典键盘和4:3 IPS显示屏的感觉,X62为他们找到了旧款的和新款的ThinkPad的完美融合。
其他改装ThinkPad的团队正倾心于开发整合ThinkPad X220/X230系列和XPS 13寸InfinityEdge屏幕的x320/X330笔记本电脑。他们最新的工作专注于ThinkPad X201和T60的改进,新机器型号分别命名为x210和T70。更多该团队和项目的英文信息在他们的脸谱网页面上有介绍。
对ThinkPad机型的改进开发,有人称之为“异类”,也有人称之为“情怀”。对现代的理念的演绎,新的产品线确实具有相当的魅力,比如X1 carbon,但是对于51nb社区和HOPE的团队来讲,吸引他们继续改装经典的ThinkPad的魅力,在于优良的工艺品质、指点杆,以及在2017年仍然“另类”地使用着经典的4:3的屏幕的那份“与众不同”。
hope 可以考虑开个品牌自己卖商务笔记本了(主板和x62 可以互换)
关键要开模做个新外壳,其它配件都好找 x19900813x 发表于 2017-2-1 18:08
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Enthusiasts-bring-classic-ThinkPad-designs-to-the-modern-era.194630.0.h ...
MS我也打不开 用x62 还好吧,其它什么的可以外包给外协厂。海尔现在还造笔记本呢,自己设计个外型就拿私磨开造了。
或者联想把51nb 收购了吧 :0 HOPE 发表于 2017-2-1 22:57
我说年前zhangyongtao打我电话说要给X62弄个英文的介绍,当时在外面和同学喝酒,后来过年一忙忘记了。。 ...
鄙视你
我的英文很蹩脚的
然后和国外的客户很蹩脚的传达一些所谓的『官方消息(51nb)』 zhangyongtao 发表于 2017-2-14 14:09
鄙视你
我的英文很蹩脚的
这么好的锻炼机会给你了,你要不能这样。 写的还是比较中肯的。 本主题由 HOPE 于 2017-2-1 18:37 审核通过 值得庆贺呀 文章还是很中肯的
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