NOKIA N770 & N800(新ROM4.2007.26-8发布,直接支持SDHC和Skype)
呵呵，今天在网上入了部NOKIA N770，好玩了一会，接着在expansys.cn入了部N800，等候收货喽。3.20，收到N800喽。
3.25，经过N次连接，终于成功下载cjk输入法，可以在N800上输入中文喽，虽然是拼音。
3.27，通过刷新内核，现在可以支持SDHC喽。
3.31，刷了最新的内核，支持3.2007.10-7版本了。
N800的规格
Display 800x480 touch screen, 16-bit color
CPU 330MHz TI OMAP 2420 CPU
Memory 128MB SDRAM, 256MB Flash
Operating system Internet Tablet OS 2007 Edition
Connectivity 802.11b/g, Bluetooth 2.0 , USB, memory card expansion (SD, MicroSD, MiniSD, MMC, and RS-MMC), audio out, AC power adapter
Size 5.67" x 2.95" x 0.51"
Battery 3.5 hours of browsing time, 12 days of standby time
Language support English (US and UK), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, Canadian French, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Dutch, Norwegian, Portuguese
Supported file formats • Audio: AAC, AMR, MP2, MP3, RA, WAV, WMA, M3U and PLS for Internet radio playlists
• Video: 3GP, AVI, H.263, MPEG-1, MPEG-4, RV
• Images: BMP, GIF, ICO, JPEG, PNG, TIFF, SVG-Tiny
比N770的250MHz的CPU快了些，内存N770是64MB SD，N800是128MB；系统N770是2006版本，N800是2007版本；另外，N770只支持RS-MMC，而N800则支持更多，包括SD、MniSD、MMC和RS-MMC。 http://osnews.com/story.php/17052/Review-The-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet/
The N800 is an evolutionary step above the older model, the N770. It features a (rumored, faster 320 Mhz ) TI CPU, two SD slots, 128 MB RAM, 256 MB flash storage, 4.1" 800x480 touchscreen, WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5mm headphones jack and mini-USB port. On the top of the device you will find the zoom buttons, the fullscreen on/off button and the microphone while on the front of the device there is a 5-way joypad and 3 additional buttons: close application/window, application's menu and task-switch. On the left side there is a retractable VGA video-call camera. Below the device you will find a very practical kickstand, which is very nice if you are using your N800 to watch movies.
In the box we found an SD placeholder card (miniSD 128 MB included), a USB cable (for data exchange only, recharging didn't work), a second stylus, a power adapter (same one as in the E61), a protective pouch, a 3.5mm earphones with a VoIP call/reject button and some manuals. The stylus is very well-done, it is hefty and feels good in the fingers. The pouch is just a thick cloth to protect the device, but does not protect from accidental screen touches, which have the effect of turning the screen back on -- even after having locked the keys and screen. In order for the screen to not come back ON again after having locked it, you should wait at least 30 seconds without you or anything else touching it. I would have liked this device to have a proper "hardware" slider lock like the iPods or some PocketPCs do.
The screen has seen an upgrade is terms of quality. It still has the same res/size, but the screen is more clear and easy to read. Upgrade has seen the RAM (128 MBs from 64 MBs), while there is now easy to use swap support to the SD card when running out of memory (e.g. on some huge web pages). The speed of the device is also higher than in the N770, everything feels a bit faster now. The two SD slots (reportedly) support the SDHC protocol now and this means that you should be able to go up to 16 GBs of flash storage using the N800.
The best thing about this Internet Tablet is its WiFi reception. I was absolutely amazed to see it discovering about 15 WiFi hotspots around my house, while the second strongest WiFi device I own barely manages more than 5 or 6 (my Powerbook only finds 2-3 for example). We have city-wide free WiFi in my town since last October via MetroFi, but my apartment faces in the other direction and it never gets signal from their access points. And yet, the N800 is the only device in my home that is able to "see" MetroFi.
As for getting Internet access via Bluetooth and a cellphone, this worked well with the Nokia phones I tried. It was more difficult to make it so though with PocketPC smartphones. The problems started when I tried to send some files over via the OPP profile. I was able to send two before the BT stack crashed and wouldn't accept any other files. For the files that it did accept, speed was good, averaging at about 80 KB/sec. Using the N800 file manager you can "browse" your Bluetooth devices via the FTP profile. Unfortunately, there is no A2DP/AVRCP support to listen to music wirelessly and no HSP/HFP support for use with the VoIP applications. On the bright side, you can use a Bluetooth keyboard with the N800.
The next two great things in the N800 are the very nice, loud sound that I got using my high-quality headphones (better sound quality compared to any Nokia phone I have ever tried) and the kickstand. The kickstand has two "levels of sitting", allowing the N800 to "sit back" and make it easy for the user to watch a movie. Initially I had my doubts, but while using it I learned to love it.
The battery life is pretty good too: it reportedly manages 10 days in always-ON standby (the device is actually ON, and with only a few hardware elements OFF), and it managed here about 5 hours of WiFi usage (screen in low backlight mode). It is my estimation (I only had the device for just a day and a half so far) that having the Gizmo or GTalk clients ON and leaving WiFi ON while in standby mode, you should get about 4-5 days of battery life which is better than the second best such device, the Nokia E61. My Nokia E61 has GSM OFF as I use it exclusively as a SIP VoIP device with GizmoProject and manages about 3-4 days of battery life (with WiFi OFF and GSM ON it can last 15 days as the E61 has one of the best battery lives out there, but WiFi is by design more power hungry than the GSM or Bluetooth antennas).
The software has seen an upgrade too, including Opera that now has Macromedia Flash support. Unfortunately, both YouTube's and Google's Flash videos are unwatchable because of the lower CPU power, and this is really a shame, because I bet the biggest reason why Nokia had to work with Adobe and ask them and port Flash to the N800 is because of YouTube... You can use a Windows server running Orb to stream Flash video in the .ram format which it plays back fine, but this is not easy to do and can not be expected from normal users to do so. Opera crashed twice while using Hotmail, but other than that it worked admirably. It allows for (legit) popups/windows to open and it has full javascript support among other well-known Opera features.
There is a GoogleTalk client in the N800, it works really well. There is also a Notes application, a Caclulator, an imap/pop3 email client, RSS reader, file manager, image viewer, world clock, PDF reader an application manager, some games and more. Unfortunately, the Maemo 3.0 platform is not fully compatible with Maemo 2.0 and so most of the 300+ applications available for the N770 do not work in the N800. So far, there are only about 10-15 applications available for the N800. I installed the GizmoProject client, a VNC client, the GPE PIM and a game. I couldn't find a screenshot applet for it though in order to get native shots (it was reported that the older applet build was working but it was not present in the repository that was supposed to be, so I couldn't find it). Installation is a breeze in Maemo using Nokia's dpkg front-end, but if you want to add more "bora" repositories things get ugly with broken dependencies (e.g. GPE Calendar 2007) and it requires some understanding of what is what when setting up a new repository.
The Media Player can playback WMA, MP3, AVI, RAM, RA and 3GP files, but unfortunately, it would not playback OGG audio or standard MPEG-4 videos, similar to the ones captured by all modern cellphones. I surely hope that at least MP4-BASIC support is fixed in an update, because it is a must-have, as the Nokia N800 is meant to be used in many ways in a conjunction to a mobile phone. Currently, the Real Player-derived engine that drives the media player does not support the MP4-BASIC and MP4-IMPROVED formats (and it has the same limitation in Motorola's touchscreen Linux phones too). Personally, I would prefer Nokia to move away from Real Player (or just use it only for RA/RAM) and instead use mplayer and also port the mplayer-plugin for use with the Opera browser. This only only will allow for broader codec support (after licensing them of course) but for WMV/QT support inside web pages that currently is not possible. This is an internet tablet after all.
The on-screen keyboard is easy to use, and it allows more than one languages to be used. I was switching between Greek and English very easily, very fast. There is also handwriting support, but I never bother with it (I have lost all hope in handwrite, no matter the platform). A nice cool thing is that if you touch an editable widget with your finger, the N800 will recognize this and it will give you a big FingerPad to type instead of the smaller virtual keyboard. Very convenient and clever.
The overall interface is interesting, cute I would say. It is very responsive and pretty stable too (I did have a random reboot today though). But I see a lot of wasted pixels when in windowed mode that they could be used to offer more real screen estate to the apps. Other usability and UI problems are addressed pretty spot-on here.
The device is really nice to hold in the hand, it feels steady, well-manufactured. It looks sexy too with this modern metal that it's made of. However, there are two things I dislike in the design. First, the retractable/rotate-able video-call camera: It is so far away from the screen, that only 2/3s of myself appears in the picture when I hold the N800 directly in front of me. This is a problem if you are in a video chat session with someone because you have to constantly adjust yourself in an uncomfortable position so you are in the visible viewing field in your friend's screen. Instead, the camera should have been placed directly above the joypad, and be rotate-able the same way some cellphones have it (e.g. the LG U8500 and the Samsung D820). Additionally, the camera can only be used with other N800 GTalk users for video-conferencing and no other application can use it so far.
The second thing I don't lile is the right part of the device (currently housing only the right speaker) that makes it unnecessarily long. I much prefer the device to be a bit thicker instead of being longer as it would fit in more pockets this way. If the designers really needed the device to be that long, I would have much preferred to use that extra space (and possibly make the device a tiny bit taller) and make the screen 5.5" ultra-widescreen at 1024x600 because more and more sites today don't fit anymore in the current 800x480 screen (e.g. Digg, CNN, Y!, C|Net etc).
Overall, the N800 is a good evolutionary step over the N770, but not without its flaws. If you want to get one of these two babies, get the N800 if you can, and only opt for the N770 if you find it in a very low price. For the price, at $400, I think that the N800 is a good deal considering that you can browse the web in a respectable way without having to carry with you heavy laptops. Regardless, we will make sure to revisit the device in the near future after updates and patches have been released from Nokia or when Skype has released their software for it.
Pros:
* Two SD slots up to 8 or 16 GBs of storage
* Upgraded RAM capacity and CPU speed
* Always-ON responsiveness
* Crispy clear sound quality
* Amazing Wi-Fi reception
* Better quality screen
* Lovely kickstand
* Good battery life
* Cute software
Cons:
* Camera only captures 2/3s of the desired image
* Backwards incompatible with most older apps
* YouTube & GoogleVideo are unwatchable
* No A2DP/AVRCP/HSP/HFP profiles
* A bit too wide for my own taste
* No hardware lock slider
* Bad MPEG-4 support
* No USB recharge 机器的配置还是很好的，特别是4.1存的屏幕搭载800*480的分辨率很吸引人。可惜对中文的支持差、软件的相对匮乏、自身不带通讯功能等让人却步。 N800都订到了？价格如何？ 期待hope的800报告
中文输入期待能搞定 lao 大 图片拍几张看看啊
770价格还可以
输入法不知能否用EFFY 网络接入方式比较单一.......对于不是经常找得到热点的人很不方便!看到说进的1400
在tompda test a post by Nokia N770.hehe 不要hehe咯。
赶紧来点真机图片和使用心得。
原帖由 HOPE 于 2007-3-15 19:48 发表
test a post by Nokia N770.
hehe 关注一下老大的后续报道 原帖由 HOPE 于 2007-3-15 19:48 发表
test a post by Nokia N770.
hehe
老大也水啊
770上传附件没问题吧
一块1500的电能持续上网多久？？ 晚上试了和ybyan的Gooogle Talk通话，30多分钟；和龙星通话3分钟，都说相当清晰，免提效果也不错，770离我都有二三十厘米，对方说还是很清楚。
看电子书(昨晚折腾一晚上才搞定中文电子书)、上网浏览都是相当不错的一种感觉，之前的任何PDA和手机无法比拟，可惜没有GSM手机的功能，只能网络通话。 刚才又测试了不到20分钟，通话效果真不错；而且分别测试了免提和听筒接近的方式。 虽然没有见到和对比770和800，但是个人从技术数据和以往的经验来看，800就是针对770在短期内推出的一个很好的升级和解决版本。
对于某些要求不太高的用户来说，770或许就足够了。
相比770和800差距接近双倍的价格来看，或许800还是非常值得拥有。 1400元??? 老大 800到了么？？
在实际应用上有什么区别么？？ 估计要下周才能到，订单状态是：
状态: 可以寄出
说明: 这份订单已经处理完毕，等待包装和邮寄.
商品 Qty
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还未配送 状态
Nokia N800 Internet Tablet (UK) 1 1 预计需要 5 天 原帖由 HOPE 于 2007-3-16 20:04 发表
估计要下周才能到，订单状态是：
状态: 可以寄出
说明: 这份订单已经处理完毕，等待包装和邮寄.
商品 Qty
已订购 Qty
还未配送 状态
Nokia N800 Internet Tablet (UK) 1 1 预计需要 5 天
。。。是下周到深圳吧
这网店不能自取
估计从深圳给你寄到单位又得好几天 他等不及的，自己走过去就是15分钟。
原帖由 dhll 于 2007-3-16 20:28 发表
估计从深圳给你寄到单位又得好几天 waiting for N800 with N770... 估计又是用770回帖的。
原帖由 HOPE 于 2007-3-16 20:46 发表
waiting for N800 with N770... en
刚才expansys回信说如无意外，下周内可以收到。 这2部机器，还是要仔细玩过后（很熟悉）才知道他们的好处和差别。
对于800，我觉得1点让我有抛弃770的地方：
支持最常见的SD卡，和其他多种扩展卡；而且容量是8G*2. 原帖由 ybyan 于 2007-3-16 21:57 发表
这2部机器，还是要仔细玩过后（很熟悉）才知道他们的好处和差别。
对于800，我觉得1点让我有抛弃770的地方：
支持最常见的SD卡，和其他多种扩展卡；而且容量是8G*2.
等hope淘汰770
我接着 开始上图喽。
先来一张桌面的，这是经过我自己定制的。 定制的天气预报，打开当天的： 看中文电子书，前天晚上折腾了我一晚上搞定。 真不错。我感觉看电子书，肯定很爽。（软件都是自带的）