宁静的海豚 发表于 2008-4-17 19:15

【新闻】IBM尝试推广员工使用苹果机

IBM研究中心的信息服务部门近来开展了一项内部试验计划,尝试将部分员工的工作工作用机转向Mac平台。初期的试验已经获得了良好的反馈,并将有助于推动IBM商用软件增强对Mac平台的支持。

由于IBM已经在2005年将自己的PC业务卖给了联想,现在已经不会再有优先使用自家产品的顾虑,这也给IBM开始采购Mac机打开了大门。IBM为开展这项计划给出了多项理由:

给员工Windows以外的选择
较少安全隐患
IBM研究中心和高校联系紧密,而Mac在学术界使用广泛
许多新员工习惯使用Mac
越来越多科研人员开始使用Mac平台进行开发
……



计划的第一阶段在2007年10月到2008年1月间实施,信息服务部向24位IBM研究中心员工发放了MacBook Pro笔记本电脑,要求他们将其作为工作用机,之前的ThinkPad则作为“除非万不得已不要使用”的备用机。测试人员包括14名科研人员,8名软件工程师,一位项目主管和一位副总裁助理。

经过4个月的试验,22位试用者发回了反馈。18人认为得到了“更好的工作体验”,1位认为没有什么区别,3位认为“不如原有电脑”。这22人种有7人之前从未使用过Mac机,并对Mac平台没有任何认识。除了3位并不愉快的试用者外,其他19人都在测试完成后要求保留MacBook Pro作为工作用机,并希望公司采购虚拟机软件令他们能够在需要的时候运行Windows软件。原因是目前IBM使用的一些软件还不支持Mac平台,包括DB2数据库、开发软件、InfoPrint工作组打印机、微软Visio以及NetMeeting等。

以下是测试者的反馈:

“当我在给客户做演示的时候,引起了不少惊叹声,客户都在问:‘ThinkPad到哪里去了,IBM开始用苹果了么?’”

“学习Mac比学用Vista简单多了。”

“通过虚拟机安装Windows XP是一项不错的功能。”

……

该计划的下一阶段将于2008年上半年进行,包括50名试用者,而根据反馈将在下半年在扩展50到100名试用者。另外,IBM内部网站上已经有了“Mac@IBM”分组,参与者包括IBM公司遍布于26个国家的930名员工。

独来独往 发表于 2008-4-17 19:19

Posted by 宁静的海豚 on 2008-4-17 19:15 http://www.ibmnb.com/images/common/back.gif
【新闻】IBM尝试推广员工使用苹果机


IBM研究中心的信息服务部门近来开展了一项内部试验计划,尝试将部分员工的工作工作用机转向Mac平台。初期的试验已经获得了良好的反馈,并将有助于推动IBM商用软件增强对Mac平台的支持。

由于IBM已经在2005年将自己的PC业务卖给了联想,现在已经不会再有优先使用自家产品的顾虑,这也给IBM开始采购Mac机打开了大门。IBM为开展这项计划给出了多项理由:

给员工Windows以外的选择
较少安全隐患
IBM研究中心和高校联系紧密,而Mac在学术界使用广泛
许多新员工习惯使用Mac
越来越多科研人员开始使用Mac平台进行开发
……






较少安全隐患?前一段时间坛子有个帖子说MAC系统是被黑客第一个攻破的系统……

zCK 发表于 2008-4-17 19:37

那不是一般的黑客:D :D :D

mqkng 发表于 2008-4-17 19:51

启发:哪天我们单位也组织一个大家用“索尼”的活动,以改进我们的设计

冰蓝 发表于 2008-4-17 19:56

Mac在日常使用还是比较安全的,切身感受。

NYOS 发表于 2008-4-17 20:10

我怎么没听说??

w04562 发表于 2008-4-17 22:50

感觉搞笑的。

stone618 发表于 2008-4-17 23:00

我在瑞士的时候,大学里办公几乎是Mac的天下

lby85 发表于 2008-4-18 18:05

回复 #8 stone618 的帖子

搞!MAC用起来那叫一个挫,特别是拖放窗口.
以前大学是有好多仪器用MAC做界面,那叫传统,现在有JAVA了.
BD ARIA都转为2003的平台了

wwwweng 发表于 2008-4-18 18:50

mac是基于unix的,自然有他的优越性,不用再挣了。
当年mac转过来的时候也很痛苦。
其实微软也试图修改他的内核,但是基于兼容性的问题,退缩了。
现在的vista就是一个例子。半成品啊!
但是mac已经过了他的痛苦期了,现在的unix内核的leopard很稳定,尤其内存使用方面。同时运行很多程序的时候根本感觉不出延迟。
IBM很好,只是操作系统让他没法发挥到极致!

wao1201 发表于 2008-4-18 19:14

官方不是说了这只是一小部分试用为了提高IBM软件的兼容性

本本族族 发表于 2008-4-18 19:49

看看效果

beyondest 发表于 2008-4-18 20:36

哦这个新闻要关注一下哈:)

songxin 发表于 2008-4-18 22:03

以后把IBM当成软件公司,不,软件服务公司,就好理解了。

客户的环境千差万别,IBM当然得什么都会用才能应付。

luyou006 发表于 2008-4-19 12:35

Posted by stone618 on 2008-4-17 11:00 PM http://www.ibmnb.com/images/common/back.gif
我在瑞士的时候,大学里办公几乎是Mac的天下
也就是说他们之间可以互相通用文件,而与其他微软机器不能通用。那怎么处理呢?比如一个论文。在MAC里不用office,那用什么?

yogibear 发表于 2008-4-19 21:44

转贴的最好贴出原始出处. 还有翻译的时候,请不要对有些内容选择性无视.

本人实话实说.


以下是英文的原文,加红显示的是不知道是有意还是无意忽略的内容:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/16/ibm-launches-pilot-program-for-migrating-to-macs/

BM’s Mac Pilot Program.
A summary of the pilot program, detailed in a IBM document obtained by RoughlyDrafted, revealed that IBM is actively working to move away from its dependence upon Microsoft Windows and toward a heterogeneous cross-platform future.

“In line with IBM’s external strategy of offering a true ‘Open Client’ that may be Windows, Linux or a Mac,” the document noted, “Research IS is focusing on providing an IBM application stack on multiple Operating Systems, rather than be confined to one or the other.”

IBM exited the PC business when it sold its Personal Computing Division and the ThinkPad brand to Lenovo in 2005. The pilot program document outlined a series of reasons for evaluating MacBook Pro laptops as a replacement for the Windows-based ThinkPads currently in use inside the company:

    * Alternative to Microsoft Windows
    * Less prone to security issues
    * Widely used in the academic world with which Research has close ties
    * Many new hires are more comfortable with the Mac and lately asking for it
    * Growing Mac community in Research and within IBM that finds the development environment on Mac more convenient
    * Growing acceptance of the Mac as a consumer and business oriented client platform
    * WPLC strategy includes significant investments in achieving the Mac platform parity

The first phase of the pilot program ran from October 2007 through January 2008. It distributed 24 MacBook Pros to researchers at different sites within IBM Research. Participants kept their existing ThinkPads, but were asked to only use them as a “last resort for applications not working yet on the Mac.”

After the four month test period, the 14 research scientists, 8 software engineers, a director, and a VP staff assistant participating in the pilot program were asked to provide feedback.

Of the 22 of 24 who responded, 18 said that the Mac offered a “better or best experience” compared to their existing computer, one rated it “equal or good,” and three said the Mac offered a “worse experience.” Seven reported having no or marginal prior knowledge of using Macs, while 15 reported having moderate or expert knowledge of the platform.

Software Issues for IBM to Address.
All of the participants reported that it was easy to install IBM’s internal software on the Macs. They listed a series of applications that were important or necessary for their work but not yet available for the Mac, including:

    * IBM’s own DB2 database and Websphere application server
    * IBM’s Rational Application Developer IDE for J2EE apps
    * IBM’s WebSphere Integration Developer SOA development tool
    * support for IBM’s InfoPrint workgroup laser printers
    * Microsoft Visio diagraming software and NetMeeting video conferencing tool

Other drawbacks or weaknesses users reported in the Mac platform included support issues with IBM’s Lotus Sametime instant messaging software and a “lack of robustness or support for Microsoft applications - PowerPoint issues, no NetMeeting, limitations for tools running on Internet Explorer.”

19 of 22 (86%) Users Ask to Keep the Mac.
However, when asked if they would rather keep their MacBook Pro or return to using their familiar ThinkPad, only three chose the ThinkPad; the rest decided to keep the Mac laptop and obtain VMWare Fusion licenses to run Windows when necessary. The document noted additional comments participants left as feedback on their Mac experience, and not all were positive:

“When presenting at customer or external meetings, I have been greeted with the ‘wow factor.’ ‘Where’s the ThinkPad, IBM uses Apples now?’”

“I commend IBM on taking this bold step in providing an alternative to Windows. It will definitely allow us to think different.”

“This can free us from the Windows stranglehold.”

“I have been a true PC stalwart for 2+ decades, but after trying Vista, I’m ready for a change.”

“It has been easier learning the Mac than learning Vista.”

“There are a number of features in the Mac that make it much better than a Windows machine. Overall productivity in using the Mac platform is higher. I can imagine that the new version of the operating system will make those features even better.”

“Getting wireless running was a piece of cake on the Mac, much simpler than the PC.”

“The ability to run Windows XP in a VM under Parallels is a great feature.”

“Upgraded to 10.5 to run Notes 8.5 alpha code, and some things broke, especially wireless. Fixed with aid of community from forums.”

“If the remote connection and Sametime issues are worked out, I think that Mac users can be productive in IBM. However, if I had to recommend a non-Windows setup, I would recommend Linux on a ThinkPad. I see the convenience and reliability of ThinkPad hardware as superior, and the Mac OS is still a proprietary OS that seems to require a Windows license for some tasks anyway. I don’t see enough of an advantage in the Mac OS to be worth the incompatibility issues when collaborating with my colleagues.”

Mac Pilot Program Expansion in 2008.
As a followup to the successful initial phase of the program, IBM plans to expand the pilot to 50 users in the first half of 2008, and based on feedback, add an additional 50 to 100 users in the second half of the year. IBM also outlined plans to improve its Mac software offerings, build the support infrastructure needed for Mac clients, and work to ensure that Macs support its internal security policies.

The company’s internal “Mac@IBM” website, cited in the pilot program document, also references an official group for Mac users within IBM, with over 930 members in 26 countries. It is described as “one of the largest and fastest growing communities within IBM.”

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IBM’s software strategy is also embracing the Mac platform, with a new version of Lotus Notes and an integrated package of office productivity software based on OpenOffice and branded as Lotus Symphony being slated for release for the Mac later this year. Support for Notes email and calendaring on the iPhone and iPod Touch is also reported to be in IBM’s plans.

[ Edited by yogibear on 2008-4-19 21:45 ]

badboyk 发表于 2008-4-19 22:41

Posted by mqkng on 2008-4-17 19:51 http://www.ibmnb.com/images/common/back.gif
启发:哪天我们单位也组织一个大家用“索尼”的活动,以改进我们的设计
sony可没有自己的操作系统啊。。

aesthetics 发表于 2008-4-19 22:49

苹果的操作系统简单直观,操作快捷方便……

z2000 发表于 2008-4-19 23:30

Posted by yogibear on 2008-4-19 21:44 http://www.ibmnb.com/images/common/back.gif
转贴的最好贴出原始出处. 还有翻译的时候,请不要对有些内容选择性无视.

本人实话实说.


以下是英文的原文,加红显示的是不知道是有意还是无意忽略的内容:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/16/i ...

套用中国“上古”时期的一个词:割裂。。。。。

很多新闻,包括IBM 纳米存储技术,都是不顾原文的想怎么说就怎么说。

lby85 发表于 2008-4-20 10:22

Posted by luyou006 on 2008-4-19 12:35 http://www.ibmnb.com/images/common/back.gif

也就是说他们之间可以互相通用文件,而与其他微软机器不能通用。那怎么处理呢?比如一个论文。在MAC里不用office,那用什么?
MAC里当然可以用office,我看你都没见过MAC

yogibear 发表于 2008-4-20 17:40

的确有Officefor Mac 的软件, MS出的。

slideaway 发表于 2008-4-20 18:08

mac 的那个系统啊,果然是no brain os

DarkClouds 发表于 2008-4-20 19:45

苹果系统,你觉得应该怎么用,它就是那么设计的。。。。

smtp9999 发表于 2008-4-20 22:42

leopard,的确不是windows比得上的。只不过在国内太多的软件和网站的兼容性不好,用起来很无奈。但是只要你用过,你就不会再去争论是windows好还是mac osx好这种问题了。好比说,你觉得在中国上大学好还是在美国上大学好?问题不是在哪里上好,而是你的米米够不够,英文灵不灵的问题。

lichamp 发表于 2008-4-21 23:07

苹果还是不错的
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